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If emblems are being converted to points, won't it be even easier to just go pick up some FO's from the vendor? You won't need Emblems of Heroism specifically anymore. (I might be wrong, but I got the impression that that's what is going to happen.)

I find it unlikely that people would spend their Justice Points on Frozen Orbs when it's likely there will be a similar item to buy at 85, as there has been at every tier in WotLK.

I'm personally not saving any Orbs, but it isn't a half bad idea. I wouldn't expect to get too much out of it though.

Very interesting development here!



So basically anyone on alliance side that was stockpiling Runecloth (like me) can go ahead and safely dump it all. There won't be a racial mount for Worgen, and thus no massive spike in demand for Runecloth. There might be a small increase in demand because of the reputation whores out there, but not anything worth stocking up for.

Interesting. You don't think they will refresh this with a recipe from more current mats? Like a Cataclysmicly Fast Carpet? If this holds up can we expect the same from mechanohogs, which has an even bigger potential?

I'm with Marxman in that I doubt anyone will spend their PvE points on Frozen Orbs. Anyone with spare points would likely spend them on Cata trade goods unless FOs become more valuable than their equivalent. For the orbs to become less valuable than now the Devs would have to remove Frozo entirely preventing Eternal conversion or make their cost a fraction of anything else that could be bought.

These aren't going to sell for 2k each and you wont sell them like hotcakes. However given time they will be among the highest appreciating goods in the xpac, and will at the very least increase as much as Eternals, approaching the equivalent price of the current most valuable Cata trade good bought for the same points. If FOs cost a third of the points of a Cata orb/gem then either that will be their value, or that of any Eternal worth more than that.

I find it unlikely Blizz will effect any change on the recipe directly considering that they never removed the Khorium component from engineering flying mounts, the orbs will be obtainable by dungeon points for those unable to find any on the AH. Generally any way of removing wealth from the economy reduces inflation and makes vital goods more accessible to those without grind time or mad AH skills. Also @Thorzek There is every chance there will be Cata crafted mounts, but bikes and carpets will be as desired then as engineers still desire their Flying Machines.

Maybe I need some clarification, but my understanding is that there are two tiers of points, Justice and Hero (?), with Hero (?) being used for current spending and Justice being used for older stuff. I find it interesting that everyone keeps stating they will stockpile their 4000 Justice point limit for Cata because they'll be able to utilize those points right off the bat for crafting materials (like new orbs), but that doesn't flow with the way the point system sounds to be implemented. Wrath *is* our 'older stuff' with the initial Cata release; everything new *should* be using the Hero (?) points until the next tier of gear/stuff releases. Frozen/Runed/Crusader orbs, hybrid gems, and PSes are going to be the only things worth buying with Justice points until T12 releases at some point in the future and then we can use Justice points for T11 stuff.

Has anyone seen something in-Beta to the contrary?

I think it's far more likely to be similar to the Emblem of Heroism/Emblem of Valor situation at the start of Wrath. Emblem of Heroism was from heroics and 10 mans, and there were some very good items to be bought with them. Valor were from more difficult content and was used for more powerful items. I imagine Justice points will be from Heroics and the higher tier points will be from the random heroic and raids.

I wasn't playing at the start of Wrath nor at the end of BC. When patch 3.0 hit, did the high-end BC emblems convert into emblems usable for Wrath craftables/gear? If not (everything I've read seems to indicate it didn't), I wouldn't expect Blizzard to now start carrying over from Wrath to Cata. With Blizzard's prior statements that 10/25-man will share loot tables, that point gains each week will be capped, and that reaching the cap will be possible either through Heroic dungeons or through raiding or a mixture of both, I think all of it will be granting the new Hero (?) points.

I've been trading in for gems and PSes to auction now before the ship begins to sink. Maybe it's the wrong move, which is why I wanted to know if anyone had actually seen to the contrary.

There was only one type of badge in TBC ([Badge of Justice]). As tiers progressed they just upped the cost for buying new items so if you had a big stockpile you could be kitted with everything new as soon as the new items were introduced. They instead introduced all these new different badges for each tier in WLK so you couldn't stockpile and instantly be done with the badge loot.

Badges of Justice still exist today in that form (until 4.0 and the conversion takes place) and weren't converted into anything when WLK shipped.

100% sure new mats are introduced to Cataclysm Volatile elements, Pyrium Ore, Ebonsteel, Elementium, Obsidian Gems