Cataclysm General Speculation

Juvie · **Posted:** Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:35 pm

Lyps wrote:

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Item | Current Value | Cataclysm Value | Reason for change.
Epic Gems | 80-100 | 5 | Vendor trash.
Rare Gems | 4.5 | 4.5 | Vendor trash.
Uncommon Gems | 1-2 | 3-5 | Main source for levelling JC.
Infinite Dust | 1-2 | 3-5 | Supply will disappear and won't meet levelling demands.
Greater Cosmic Essence | 12-15 | 3-5 | Can level mostly without it.
Dream Shard | 4-5 | 3-5 | Can level mostly without it.
Abyss Crystals | 25-33 | 15-25 | Tied to dust and essence prices due to Abyssal Shatter.
Saronite Ore | 0.7-0.8 | 2-3 | Supply will disappear and won't meet levelling demands.
Saronite Bar | 1.4-1.6 | 3-5 | Worth less than ore due to fewer uses.
Titanium Ore | 9-10 | 2-3 | Prospect value.
Eternal Water | 1-2 | 0.6 | Vendor trash.
Eternal Life | 20-22 | 0.6 | Vendor trash.
Eternal Air | 10-12 | 3-5 | Limited value as meta gems.
Eternal Fire | 20-22 | 3-5 | Limited value as meta gems.
Eternal Earth | 4-5 | 6-9 | Tied to enchant mats due to JC ring.
Eternal Shadow | 4-5 | 6-9 | Tied to enchant mats due to JC rings.
Frozen Orbs | 20-22 | 5 | Vendor trash.
Snowfall Ink | 4-5 | 0.05 | Vendor trash.
Ink of the Sea | 2-3 | ?? | Depends on whether new inks will be tradeable for all lesser inks. Will probably maintain

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Very nice list. I really liked seeing your thoughts on Infinite Dust as I'm heavily invested in it from JC ring breaks.

You can add my thoughts on a couple things on the list.

"Epic Gems | 80-100 | 5 | Vendor trash."
- cut em for 9g but still garbage

"Titanium Ore | 9-10 | 2-3 | Prospect value."
-With less need for saronite than cobalt in leveling BS there will be less titanium found. Plus 72 ore still used for each mechano-hog It should hold more value than just prospect value. 6-8 could be a fair guess but could surprise and gain value based on low supply from difficult/unlikely farming.

"Eternal Water | 1-2 | 0.6 | Vendor trash."
- with Zalgo's post on professions leveling these may be slightly higher. I wouldn't bet on it.

"Eternal Life | 20-22 | 0.6 | Vendor trash."
-Looking to buy at 1g on these with 5g autumn's glows = transmute to king's amber sold at 9g cut (not expecting large quantities of this available) but now and then profit is still profit.

"Eternal Shadow | 4-5 | 6-9 | Tied to enchant mats due to JC rings.
Eternal Earth | 4-5 | 6-9 | Tied to enchant mats due to JC ring."
-Again Zalgos research on needs for prof leveling bumps these as well and may cause shortages with JC's wanting them. Good buy at current prices imo and I am stockpiling tons at 2-3g per.

MilkHermit · **Posted:** Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:28 pm

Juvie wrote:

"Eternal Life | 20-22 | 0.6 | Vendor trash."
-Looking to buy at 1g on these with 5g autumn's glows = transmute to king's amber sold at 9g cut (not expecting large quantities of this available) but now and then profit is still profit.

I don't think anyone will want to waste a transmute on a 3g profit though. I think EL is used to level Leatherworking though I'm not sure if it's required to skill up.

edit: Sorry, did not know that transmute CD for Wrath epics was being removed.

raimondas · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:53 am

You might still be able to sell Snowfall Ink to people trying to finish up Insane in the Membrane. This depends in large part on how or if they change the Feat, though.

Juvie · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:22 am

MilkHermit wrote:

Juvie wrote:

"Eternal Life | 20-22 | 0.6 | Vendor trash."
-Looking to buy at 1g on these with 5g autumn's glows = transmute to king's amber sold at 9g cut (not expecting large quantities of this available) but now and then profit is still profit.

I don't think anyone will want to waste a transmute on a 3g profit though. I think EL is used to level Leatherworking though I'm not sure if it's required to skill up.

There's no wasting a transmute when there's no cooldown. So you can do as many as you can get the mats cheap enough. On small things like this I get a few mats here and there and once I have down time I'll make a few hundred. It adds up.
Water is what a LW will need.

Drogg · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:54 pm

I can't see frozen orbs being vendor trash.... unless frozo the flying carpet midget is taken out of the game. Frozen orbs should remain on par with the highest value traded item... such as runed orbs/crusader orbs or the highest value eternal/frost lotus etc.

Does anyone know if frozo is hanging around in dalaran in the beta atm?

Thrim · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:03 pm

Drogg wrote:

I can't see frozen orbs being vendor trash.... unless frozo the flying carpet midget is taken out of the game. Frozen orbs should remain on par with the highest value traded item... such as runed orbs/crusader orbs or the highest value eternal/frost lotus etc.

Does anyone know if frozo is hanging around in dalaran in the beta atm?

I'm also curious about this.

Zerotorescue · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:37 pm

He was still there a few builds ago, if I remember I'll verify it later today. If you don't get a confirmation before tomorrow, then feel free to poke me at the IRC channel.

Zerotorescue · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:38 pm

There you go, he's still untouched.

Drogg · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:07 pm

Thanks! Appreciate it ;-)

Whitewolf · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:34 pm

I have a question.

Maybe I'm having a brain burp here, but I couldn't recall this...

Enchant Weapon - Spellpower. (+30 spellpower) Are enchants going to be affected in a similar way that gems are by the rearranging and discarding of certain stats? Will this remain the same or convert to a + Intellect stat?

ty in advance

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