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 Post subject: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:37 am  
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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:38 am  
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Correction: Markco got free advertising.

Beyond that, Gevlon is no longer the go-to guy for economic information as he no longer writes anything of value in that area. All his posts do nowadays are show that he's an anachronism when it comes to making money in WoW and that he likes to cherry pick information to "prove" himself right.
He is a self-absorbed, self-congratulating spin doctor who posts blog entries that get him attention.

Now he made Markco look a bit like a used car saleman, but whatever. It's not like Markco has kept his willingness to make RL money a secret.

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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
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Yeah, having sat through reading that post by Gevlon, I came out of it liking Marcko a lot more than Gevlon.


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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
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I don't understand how Gevlon can claim to be an antisocial who doesn't care what people think of him, but is afraid of losing respect of his readers by putting an advert on his site.


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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
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TufakofFeathermoon wrote:
Yeah, having sat through reading that post by Gevlon, I came out of it liking Marcko a lot more than Gevlon.


I like them both, unfortunately, Markco fought back which in my opinion is a mistake, oh well with age comes experience (one would hope). Hopefully this doesn't bring a new batch of trolls to the site.

Chin up Markco this will bring you more traffic and if they take the time to actually read your blog, instead of spreading hate, they will see the truth.

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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
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I deleted my defensive post and I hope I don't affend anyone who commented on it. I appreciate the responses and read every one of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:49 am  
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After reading Gevlon's post, as well as Tobold's (http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2009/11/do- ... uides.html), I think it is definitely Marko who comes off worse for wear. I read JMTC and Greedy Goblin every day, I listen to the How I WoW podcast with Marko, and I'm generally a supporter of both.

Unfortunately, Marko, you come across as underhanded and something of a bully. You've never disguised your sale of a gold guide, and good on you for being an entrepreneur. But if Gevlon's blog is accurate, then the way you approached him makes it seem like you have been completely dishonest in describing how and why you started JMTC. You went on How I WoW and made it sound like the gold guide is simply a hobby, a convenience for people that don't have the time to scour this website. Now, lo and behold, you're trying to muscle Gevlon into fleecing people for your guide (and, btw, the $5 to get rid of ads on this site doesn't make you look any less of a snakeoil salesman).

You seem like a nice enough guy, I'm glad you've got a great job and are losing weight, but those e-mails are sleazy. Poor form on your part, and I am sorry to say so.

Edit: Also, to say that Gevlon doesn't provide any economic advice of value is, imho, inaccurate. At the best he provides detailed, useful information, Ie: his glyph industry posts (http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... ustry.html). At worst, he's entertaining, albeit longwinded and maybe a little right of Ayn Rand. Politics aside though, Gevlon deserves more credit than he has been given thus far in this thread. I mean, even Marko called him the Master.

Also, I'm fully aware that this could be an elaborate advertisement on one or both of their parts. If so, it's exceptionally well done, and I'll surrender any moral highground very quickly.

Finally, I don't think any of this will stop me from coming to this site or Gevlon's. Also, I personally would have been annoyed by a banner at his site, but as you predicted, would have returned despite my annoyance.


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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:05 am  
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I think Gevlons post was out of line, however my twisted sense of humor finds stuff like that funny.

Marco, seriously?? You used your business email??? That's never a good idea.

Hope you sell a decent amount of guides from this, I'm sure you'll get at least a few.

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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:06 am  
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Bigjimm wrote:
After reading Gevlon's post, as well as Tobold's (http://tobolds.blogspot.com/2009/11/do- ... uides.html), I think it is definitely Marko who comes off worse for wear. I read JMTC and Greedy Goblin every day, I listen to the How I WoW podcast with Marko, and I'm generally a supporter of both.

Unfortunately, Marko, you come across as underhanded and something of a bully. You've never disguised your sale of a gold guide, and good on you for being an entrepreneur. But if Gevlon's blog is accurate, then the way you approached him makes it seem like you have been completely dishonest in describing how and why you started JMTC. You went on How I WoW and made it sound like the gold guide is simply a hobby, a convenience for people that don't have the time to scour this website. Now, lo and behold, you're trying to muscle Gevlon into fleecing people for your guide (and, btw, the $5 to get rid of ads on this site doesn't make you look any less of a snakeoil salesman).

You seem like a nice enough guy, I'm glad you've got a great job and are losing weight, but those e-mails are sleazy. Poor form on your part, and I am sorry to say so.

Edit: Also, to say that Gevlon doesn't provide any economic advice of value is, imho, inaccurate. At the best he provides detailed, useful information, Ie: his glyph industry posts (http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... ustry.html). At worst, he's entertaining, albeit longwinded and maybe a little right of Ayn Rand. Politics aside though, Gevlon deserves more credit than he has been given thus far in this thread. I mean, even Marko called him the Master.


If you recall gevlon used to send readers to my blog/forums for help all the time as well. I hate drama though, and I'm going to let this blow over.

I just read on the gevlon article you said I'd delete your post... why would I do that?

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 Post subject: Re: Markco got owned.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:09 am  
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If you recall gevlon used to send readers to my blog/forums for help all the time as well. I hate drama though, and I'm going to let this blow over.[/quote]

Allowing it to blow over seems wise.

Since you took the time to respond to my post (thanks for that, btw), let me offer one one more thought: if our roles were reversed and I was in your shoes with you in mine, I would say something to the effect of "Gevlon's only telling his side of the story and I'm not going to punch back. Also, as I've said from the beginning, I sell an effing gold guide. I don't do things halfway, so I sell it hard. What else would you expect?"

Edit: Re: deletion: As I was editing, I saw a post appear and then disappear underneath mine, and thought an admin might delete my post. I think it was just someone pulling their own post, but I wasn't sure at the time. It seems to have been a misunderstanding on my part.


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